LillaTroops Really Don't Want To Go To Iraq?
November 29th 2006 14:47
The following is not my work. It was written by a friend of mine from another blog group his screen name is Corbin_Dallas. I should have asked if he wanted his real name used so Corbin if you are around and you want to introduce yourself please do so.
Not satisfied with John Kerry’s simply calling our brave soldiers dumb and lazy Charlie Rangel drove the Democrat point home more directly........
"I want to make it abundantly clear: if there’s anyone who believes that these youngsters want to fight, as the Pentagon and some generals have said, you can just forget about it. No young, bright individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits. And most all of them come from communities of very, very high unemployment. If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq." Charlie Rangel 15th District Congress
Of course Ol' Charlie was making this point when pitching his new draft proposal.....
You remember the "Draft Issue" during the election???? The draft Democrats threatened would result from a Bush re-election??? Remember that when your sons and daughters begin getting their letters.........
his comment instead highlights the fact that Democrats just think poorly of our brave men and women in uniform........
They see them as poor, ignorant children being manipulated by a scheming system. Nevermind such a stereotype has been thoroughly debunked, it goes to show how patronizing Democrats are to the military.
Stereotype Debunked
Of course, this isn’t anything new for Democrats, is it??? For years they’ve publicly professed their dislike and lack of respect for our troops........from accusing fellow soldiers of committing war crimes (John Kerry) to loathing the military (Bill Clinton).
Only those who hate the military can advocate a draft today.........America has the smartest and best-trained military the world has ever seen because it is composed of people who want to be there, who voluntarily made a commitment to risk their lives defending their country.
To drag youngsters into it against their will is not only an amazing waste of money (train them for two years then they're gone) but amazingly counter-productive..........it destroys cohesion and morale. Probably that's what Rangel wants to achieve. It hasn't dawned on him that the draft will make young voters hate Democrats........
With friends like the Democrats, who needs enemies…
Now for a response from a military wife. This is written by my friend Jen. Her husband spent a tour of duty in the Iraq with the National Guard and as I write this and add her words she is packing to move her family as her husband has made the choice to go active duty.
Ugh - send both of them over there to do convoy security - right out in the open. I personally don't want to see a draft and have guys who don't give a shit and don't want to be there be next to my husband in a war and supposedly having his back.
Oh and bonus? Sorry, I don't recall ever seeing a bonus in the 7 years Paul has been in plus he just added another 3 to that and no bonus there either. Whatever happened to people realizing the pride that our soldiers have to keep the freedom for this country and defend our flag? I'm married to a guy who has more experience than his new active duty fire fighting unit because he's been overseas and who is willing to go back and do it again to make sure these guys come home safe. There are no extra incentives if he does that. Yeah we get the full time AD pay and benefits now but compared to his civilian counterparts it's about 30% less. Does that change things? Nope. It's called patriotism - I wish more people still had it. Particularly those in gov't positions like Congress and Senators.
Now for my take:
My husband is 18 months from retirement. He spent four years regular Army and due to family obigation he got out and took his young family home to his childhood home. Within a year or going home he found the closest National Guard unit and signed up.
When we married I made him promise that if it ever seemed like he might end up in a combat situation he would get out. That is the only promise my husband has ever broken to me. Granted it was a mutual decision between the two of us. Shortly after 911 he wanted to go active duty. It took all I had to convince him that was a bad idea. When all was said and done, I knew I had to give him the go ahead to do what he needed to do because holding him to a that promise would have destroyed the man the I knew and loved.
When my husband left for Iraq it was by choice to the degree that he waited for his current enlistment to run out and then walked into a recruiters office refusing to sign the paperwork until he was guaranteed a place in a unit that was on alert. He was going to Iraq no matter what he had to do.
When he left in October of 2004 he left a steady, good paying job. Only upon his return did he find himself out of work. As for bonuses, the last bonus my husband had was in 2002 when he extended if I recall correctly. He knew he was not eligible for a bonus the last time he signed the dotted line and his GI bill has been used in the first years of our marriage. He took a cut in pay and his family took a cut in health care benefits as what we had from his civilian job was and is tremendously better.
My husband just as Jen's husband Paul are soldiers. They made their own choices, they serve their country with pride and honor and they made the choice to serve without thought of bonuses, education benefits or income.
Nobody "wants" to go into combat, nobody "wants" to die but those who make the choice more often than not make the choice beyond unemployment, bonuses or education benefits. They make because they believe in something that goes beyond what they want.
These soldiers hate war but they love freedom more.
I advice the likes or Mr. Rangel and Mr. Kerry who obviously have never taken the time to talk to the troops, get to know them or even give them much thought beyond their own political agenda to spend a little time with our troops and find out how they really feel. If you don't want to do that then do us all a favor and quit talking about things that you really know nothing about.
Not satisfied with John Kerry’s simply calling our brave soldiers dumb and lazy Charlie Rangel drove the Democrat point home more directly........
"I want to make it abundantly clear: if there’s anyone who believes that these youngsters want to fight, as the Pentagon and some generals have said, you can just forget about it. No young, bright individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits. And most all of them come from communities of very, very high unemployment. If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq." Charlie Rangel 15th District Congress
Of course Ol' Charlie was making this point when pitching his new draft proposal.....
You remember the "Draft Issue" during the election???? The draft Democrats threatened would result from a Bush re-election??? Remember that when your sons and daughters begin getting their letters.........
his comment instead highlights the fact that Democrats just think poorly of our brave men and women in uniform........
They see them as poor, ignorant children being manipulated by a scheming system. Nevermind such a stereotype has been thoroughly debunked, it goes to show how patronizing Democrats are to the military.
Stereotype Debunked
Of course, this isn’t anything new for Democrats, is it??? For years they’ve publicly professed their dislike and lack of respect for our troops........from accusing fellow soldiers of committing war crimes (John Kerry) to loathing the military (Bill Clinton).
Only those who hate the military can advocate a draft today.........America has the smartest and best-trained military the world has ever seen because it is composed of people who want to be there, who voluntarily made a commitment to risk their lives defending their country.
To drag youngsters into it against their will is not only an amazing waste of money (train them for two years then they're gone) but amazingly counter-productive..........it destroys cohesion and morale. Probably that's what Rangel wants to achieve. It hasn't dawned on him that the draft will make young voters hate Democrats........
With friends like the Democrats, who needs enemies…
Now for a response from a military wife. This is written by my friend Jen. Her husband spent a tour of duty in the Iraq with the National Guard and as I write this and add her words she is packing to move her family as her husband has made the choice to go active duty.
Ugh - send both of them over there to do convoy security - right out in the open. I personally don't want to see a draft and have guys who don't give a shit and don't want to be there be next to my husband in a war and supposedly having his back.
Oh and bonus? Sorry, I don't recall ever seeing a bonus in the 7 years Paul has been in plus he just added another 3 to that and no bonus there either. Whatever happened to people realizing the pride that our soldiers have to keep the freedom for this country and defend our flag? I'm married to a guy who has more experience than his new active duty fire fighting unit because he's been overseas and who is willing to go back and do it again to make sure these guys come home safe. There are no extra incentives if he does that. Yeah we get the full time AD pay and benefits now but compared to his civilian counterparts it's about 30% less. Does that change things? Nope. It's called patriotism - I wish more people still had it. Particularly those in gov't positions like Congress and Senators.
Now for my take:
My husband is 18 months from retirement. He spent four years regular Army and due to family obigation he got out and took his young family home to his childhood home. Within a year or going home he found the closest National Guard unit and signed up.
When we married I made him promise that if it ever seemed like he might end up in a combat situation he would get out. That is the only promise my husband has ever broken to me. Granted it was a mutual decision between the two of us. Shortly after 911 he wanted to go active duty. It took all I had to convince him that was a bad idea. When all was said and done, I knew I had to give him the go ahead to do what he needed to do because holding him to a that promise would have destroyed the man the I knew and loved.
When my husband left for Iraq it was by choice to the degree that he waited for his current enlistment to run out and then walked into a recruiters office refusing to sign the paperwork until he was guaranteed a place in a unit that was on alert. He was going to Iraq no matter what he had to do.
When he left in October of 2004 he left a steady, good paying job. Only upon his return did he find himself out of work. As for bonuses, the last bonus my husband had was in 2002 when he extended if I recall correctly. He knew he was not eligible for a bonus the last time he signed the dotted line and his GI bill has been used in the first years of our marriage. He took a cut in pay and his family took a cut in health care benefits as what we had from his civilian job was and is tremendously better.
My husband just as Jen's husband Paul are soldiers. They made their own choices, they serve their country with pride and honor and they made the choice to serve without thought of bonuses, education benefits or income.
Nobody "wants" to go into combat, nobody "wants" to die but those who make the choice more often than not make the choice beyond unemployment, bonuses or education benefits. They make because they believe in something that goes beyond what they want.
These soldiers hate war but they love freedom more.
I advice the likes or Mr. Rangel and Mr. Kerry who obviously have never taken the time to talk to the troops, get to know them or even give them much thought beyond their own political agenda to spend a little time with our troops and find out how they really feel. If you don't want to do that then do us all a favor and quit talking about things that you really know nothing about.
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